
What We Talk About When We Talk About Love
Raymond Carver · 1981
The Lish-edited Carver at its most extreme: stories stripped to their syntactic bones. Controversial (see Beginners, the unedited version) but enormously influential. The title story is a masterpiece of drunk philosophical despair.
The case against
Whose book is this? Lish cut some stories nearly in half, rewrote endings, and manufactured the famous flatness; set Beginners beside it and the minimalism starts to look like an editor's brand stamped on a warmer writer. Even taken on its own terms, the affect wears thin: every story the same shrug, every silence assigned the same job.
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